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Altus Whyte
11-15-2013, 12:30 AM
Members of Wessex, on this day let it be known that a Court of Assize has been called.

Accused in this trial stands Mister Rhodri Taliesin, Esquire, for the crime of Murder.

His accuser is Dreadlust Shadow. Dreadlust will be considered the Plaintiff in this case.


The defendant who has not given previous notice of absence from the guild has 48 hours to select a representative to respond in his stead or acknowledge he is aware of the crime he stands accused of and that he is prepared to defend himself pro se.

The defendant may also list witness' that may be called on his behalf. If this period passes without reply, the defendant shall be counted guilty and judged accordingly.

At this time the plaintiff may only post any witness' that he wishes to be called on his behalf. Any other information or claims must be held until evidence is presented.

The Carta Solis gives the defendant gentleman the right to a jury of his peers and members of his neighbourhood. The jury has been chosen to meet these criteria to the greatest extent possible. The following persons have been selected to attend as jury, and are to make their presence known to the court:

-Wooster Redwood, Baronet
-Otto Osterwind, Constable of Nave
-Hawks Furysky, Esquire
-Dismas Eleos, Ventenar

Each person called to jury duty needs to post within the next 24 hours simply by making acknowledgment in this thread. If any person cannot be available, they must make it known at this time so they can be replaced. Further instructions will be given to the jury once it is assembled.

All sides are prohibited from discussing the specifics of the case with any members of the jury under any circumstances until the trial has concluded. Jury tampering will be dealt with harshly.

This trial is open to the view of the public.

Sub Signum Rex.
612

Otto Osterwind
11-15-2013, 01:33 AM
Present.

Rhodri Taliesin
11-15-2013, 07:11 AM
I understand the crimes that I am being accused of.

Dismas Eleos
11-15-2013, 10:28 AM
Roger.

Hawks Furysky
11-15-2013, 10:46 PM
Present

Wooster Redwood
11-16-2013, 08:04 AM
Present.

Altus Whyte
11-16-2013, 06:41 PM
The jury has been assembled and the defendant has acknowledged the charge.

The plaintiff may go ahead and make his case. Describe what happened and the events leading up to it, with as much detail as possible. Post any evidence you might have.

Do so within 24 hours.

Dreadlust Shadow
11-16-2013, 09:17 PM
During Friday, ‎October ‎4, ‎2013, ‏‎3:37:01 PM (Oceanic time zone) It started off as a boring day where the server war between 7L alliance and the GUTS alliance was coming to a complete stop due to both sides being bored from sieging assets so i asked 7L if there war was active and they told me that they did not know so i decided to take the tunghsteel-steel set and many other steel pieces i had looted in a battle, from Kranesh to Bakti due to the fact that Wessex is based out of there on my Dreadlust character. After i arrived into Bakti i transferred the armor set to my character named Kumiko due to the fact that i kept all the good armor pieces that i couldn't use on my main due to armor taking up too much bank space. While transferring the armor set i had noticed a old friend of mine from WSX was in Bakti who had left Wessex due to drama within the guild. I went up to him on the current character i was on which was Kumiko and added him onto my friends list to ask him why he had left and to see if he had changed his mind about leaving Wessex and tried to convince him to join Wessex again. After a while of talking to one another somebody yelled out that GUTS was outside the west gates, so i told Castiel to wait then grabbed my minimum dencity flakestone armor and some magic reagents and went outside to fight them. After i went outside of Bakti i spotted two mounted red GUTS members which ones name was Chicollo and the other one i forgot the name of circling around Bakti's west gates attacking people (Chicollo being a hammer user and the other one being a mounted archer). Due to GUTS being outside a few people engaged them including Rhodri and I near the hillside west of the town. Rhodri went all out and was fighting them 1 vs 2 and eventually got dismounted. During that time i could not heal anyone due a slight bug where your magic wont work on anyone. After a few minutes of skirmishing Rhodris mount eventually died and got knocked off of it and decided to walk towards the guardzone outside of Bakti in order to call the guards on the people outside as demonstrated in a different PvP video showing Rhodris habit when a fight is being lost ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO8SC6lkCGk 3:40 onwards ). After Rhodri had called the guards on the enemy Chicollo got stuck on a bush due to a glitch and died to the guards. While his other friend was trying to get away he also got stuck on the same position and died. Due to no body being around i ran up to the lootbags and looted most of the loot off of the enemies bodies. The loot i got off the enemies included 3 messing and 1 steel mauls, 1 steel 2h star mace, a bow and almost 2 armor sets which included a molrium set and a steel/flakestone set. Due to me picking up so much loot i was weighed down tremendously and my speed was cut off more than half. Due to the fear of being attacked I decided to go the the outside, west fence of Bakti to log out while trying to contact Castiel to help me transfer the loot to my bank because he was afk i decided to log out once i arrived at the fence but canceled the logout when i saw a naked Rhodri arrive outside of the town gates along sides the south west fence and look down on the floor at his blue lootbag. Due to me seeing him dead and his lootbag being there i decided to follow the west fence northwards while using the auto run and to get this loot into my bank. After i arrived into town through the west gate Castiel had replied to the message i sent a while ago and asked if i needed help getting all of the loot into town and i replied "no I'm in town" then typed "I'm tiptoeing" reffering to how my character was moving. Before i could press enter to send the message to Castiel, Rhodri came out of no were naked with a one handed steel greatblade and started to attack me causing him to turn blue and ended up killing me. After he had killed me the guards then killed him due to him attacking someone in town. After taking screenshots( http://i.imgur.com/cWfLTAO.png Friday, ‎October ‎4, ‎2013, ‏‎4:02:55 PM)and ranting about Rhodri to Castiel, i quickly ran to the priest and resurrected making my way to my lootbag swiftly so it wont be looted by any griefers. When i arrived at my lootbag two lines of weapons + armor was missing. Even tho this was the case i looted all of my original gear and some of the gear that was left and banked most and afterwards gave the rest of the armor to naked players around Bakti. Before i gave the armors away i decided to rant about Rhodri in town about him killing me and why would he kill me and then after the 2 minute gray timer was up Rhodri had ressurected at the priest and said "I see your working with the Gutternsipes ey" (or something close to that) and i ranted more until another Wessex member that i forgot the name of came up to me and said "It sounds like butt hurt to me". I replied back to him forgetting what i actually said then Kreager (A person that i had not spoken to since January) requested to be my friend and started to ask me question such as what guilds are you with, are you guilded etc. I replied as straightforward as possible and removed him off of my friends list then gave the armor away to naked aroundBakti since i could not use it due to me being a free to play.

Corrections by the plaintiff:

Before i could press enter to send the message to Castiel, Rhodri came out of no were naked with a one handed steel greatblade and started to attack me causing him to turn grey and ended up killing me. After he had killed me the guards then killed him due to him attacking someone in town.


I replied back to him forgetting what i actually said then Kreager (A person that i had not spoken to since April) requested to be my friend and started to ask me question such as what guilds are you with, are you guilded etc.

Altus Whyte
11-17-2013, 01:30 AM
The defendant can now go ahead and present his version of events.

Do so within 24 hours.

Rhodri Taliesin
11-17-2013, 05:07 AM
First of I'd like to thank the Jury and the Sheriff for their time and participation here.

On the day in question I remember see a /yell around town that the Guttersnipes had arrived in Bak'ti. After trying to assemble a counter force in town and finding none to join the fight. I decided to take a stand against the red raiders myself. I was in Teamspeak with Kreager Stonewall at the time, who was not logged into game, enjoying general banter. After a few minutes of the fight going back and forth with some performance issues on my own end (such as freezing in place at inopportune moments). I ended up being an easy target for the raiders.

As I was attempting to make my way towards the safety of the town riding down hill, I noticed a grouping of players blue flagged and grey flagged, one of those players being "Kumiko", who was throwing healing spells onto the Guttersnipe raiders blue-flagged players. Kumiko was wrapped in scale made Khurite Splinted armor. A character that until then I had never seen in or around Bak'ti. At this point I had been dismounted and cornered against the fence, surrounding Bak'ti, where I was struck with a few flamestrike spells and killed.

Before I fell I had called the guards a few times, in hopes that if I were to die that my enemies might be taken with me. I ran to the priest, resurrected and made my way back towards the gate and towards my corpse to see what had occurred while I was dead, it appeared the enemy was dead, and that their bodies were looted, my own corpse looted empty (probably by the reds) upon passing, I noticed Kumiko who was now wearing pieces of steel armor where there was none before.

Believing this person to have assisted in my demise and having looted his friends equipment as well as my own to preserve it for their own nefarious endeavors, I grabbed a blade and slew this person, upon inspection of the fallen Kumiko, my suspicions were confirmed when I found pieces of my armor with my armor markings. I always make my steel pieces marked as "Cavalier" & "Knight" As well as my personal sword. Within moments after having my suspicions confirmed I grabbed what was mine and then fell when the guards sought retribution upon my mechanically criminal status.

Altus Whyte
11-17-2013, 09:01 PM
Neither party has called any witnesses at this point. We'll proceed then. Each side will get the opportunity to question the other.

The plaintiff may now question the defendant. Submit your question as a reply to this thread. It will then be approved provided that it is relevant, or you will be asked to modify it.

The explanation as to why a question is relevant can be sent to me as a PM, or posted along with the question itself.

If you have no questions, then state so. Reply within 24 hours.

Dreadlust Shadow
11-18-2013, 07:57 AM
· ...
This is a rebuttal which can be saved for later.



· Second of all after you resurrected you had yelled out I see your working with the Gutternsipes ey, how did you find out it was me, was it because this character was previously tagged as Wessex? You also claim that i am or was a guttersnipes associate, do you have any proof to justify your claims?






· You claim that I was wearing steel armor pieces; can you clarify which pieces I was wearing?








· You claim I was wearing khurite splinted armor when in fact was wearing flakestone draconic armor, due to the fact that I only had been wearing draconic armor apart from dismas’ standard armor that he was giving to guild members which included platescale plate armor, would this mean you were looking at the wrong person at the time of the event. Do you also have evidence showing that I was wearing khurite splinted armor?




· You were fighting the 2 guttersnipes members in close combat, how and when did you get time to look at the surrounding and the people on a sloped hill where targeting people is close to impossible.




· You had claimed that you had called the guards on the enemy which had died since you had claimed that I was carrying the enemy’s armor, why would the guards not kill me even tho as you claim I was gray?



- ...
The second half about allies is going off topic.



· Instead of asking how I “got your armor” which I didn’t and asking back for it why did you decided hey ill just this person. Could it be the well-known grudge you hold again me or could it be just that this is one of your so called “justification for murder” moments?
Edit by the plaintiff:
Instead of asking how I “got your armor” which I didn’t and asking back for it why did you decided hey ill just kill this person. Could it be the well-known grudge you hold again me or could it be just that this is one of your so called “justification for murder” moments?




· You claim a possibility that the so called “reds” looted the armor and then you say that I had looted the reds dead bodies and also claim that you had called guards on the mounted reds. How can it be that they could pull that off in that short amount of town near the guard zone?




· How can you make sure I saw working with the guttersnipes? Was it a guess or was it simply a lie? There is proof of me destroying over 1000g worth of guttersnipes assets in videos and screenshots, how can it be that I would go out of my way to help the people that I was giving such a hard time to? Do you also have proof of me being linked to the guttersnipes or even helping the guttersnipe’s out?




· ...
Opinion on rumors irrelevant.



· Wessex has a court system to punish the crimes of people within the empire of wessex and are protocols on punishing people within the guild. Why would you take the law into your own hands and “exact” punishment to another member of wessex without proof? Is it because you see yourself as a superior member of Wessex or do you think that you are above Wessex law?




· You had claimed that somehow I had looted your armor near the town guardzone and was not killed by the guards. How could I manage to carry all of the armor that you claimed I had on me when I was on a mage that could not carry much weight due to its stats as shown here? (http://www.mortalonline.com/db/?cn=Kumiko).




· Let’s just say if I looted your armor off of the so called enemies (which I didn’t) and you claim that you name all of your armor Cavilier and Knight, due to your tendency of dying a lot in battle wouldn’t it mean that the enemy might have looted those armor pieces off of you during a previous battle and the enemy decided to wear it? And also anyone can name their armor Cavilier and Knight, do you have any proof that that was your armor?




· Why did Kreager contact me and ask me personal Questions about which guild I was in, how did he know I was Dreadlust. He also mentioned to get my forum privileges removed during that conversation due to security reasons which is understandable, how did he a person who I haven’t spoken to since April and which I hated until recently know who I was and you would not know who I was?
Edit by the plaintiff:
Why did Kreager contact me and ask me personal Questions about which guild I was in, how did he know I was Dreadlust. He also mentioned to get my forum privileges removed during that conversation due to security reasons which is understandable, how did he a person who I haven’t spoken to since April and which we disliked each other due to personal reasons until recently (Untill recently which the issue has been resolved) know who I was and you would not know who I was?



· Let’s just say in mortal online someone loots your gear and dies, when someone loots your gear they acquire it and I becomes a part of them. If I somehow looted your gear off of the enemies, wouldn’t it mean that I looted the enemies and not your gear?

Altus Whyte
11-18-2013, 04:29 PM
Defendant, continue by answering each question.

Please do so within 24 hours.

Rhodri Taliesin
11-19-2013, 07:16 AM
The defendant would like to request more time to study and answer these questions before presenting an answer.

The requested time being 48-hours.

Altus Whyte
11-19-2013, 09:20 AM
Alright, take another 48 hours.

We're not going to let the questioning drag on for too long though, so don't expect another 48 to answer follow-up questions unless you have a very good reason for it.

Altus Whyte
11-21-2013, 03:49 PM
Plaintiff, the defendant has objected to your questions.

I'm instructing you to rephrase some of your questions to be more clear and concise.

Keep the following in mind:

-Ask one question at a time. Do not combine multiple questions into one. (If a matter is complex you'll be able to continue with follow-up questions).

-Avoid making statements in questions unless the question requires it.

-Avoid leading-questions where you put forward your own answer to the question within the question itself.

Please rewrite and/or split up the questions below:

· Second of all after you resurrected you had yelled out I see your working with the Gutternsipes ey, how did you find out it was me, was it because this character was previously tagged as Wessex? You also claim that i am or was a guttersnipes associate, do you have any proof to justify your claims?



· You claim I was wearing khurite splinted armor when in fact was wearing flakestone draconic armor, due to the fact that I only had been wearing draconic armor apart from dismas’ standard armor that he was giving to guild members which included platescale plate armor, would this mean you were looking at the wrong person at the time of the event. Do you also have evidence showing that I was wearing khurite splinted armor?



· Instead of asking how I “got your armor” which I didn’t and asking back for it why did you decided hey ill just kill this person. Could it be the well-known grudge you hold again me or could it be just that this is one of your so called “justification for murder” moments?



· How can you make sure I saw working with the guttersnipes? Was it a guess or was it simply a lie? There is proof of me destroying over 1000g worth of guttersnipes assets in videos and screenshots, how can it be that I would go out of my way to help the people that I was giving such a hard time to? Do you also have proof of me being linked to the guttersnipes or even helping the guttersnipe’s out?



· Wessex has a court system to punish the crimes of people within the empire of wessex and are protocols on punishing people within the guild. Why would you take the law into your own hands and “exact” punishment to another member of wessex without proof? Is it because you see yourself as a superior member of Wessex or do you think that you are above Wessex law?



-Why did Kreager contact me and ask me personal Questions about which guild I was in, how did he know I was Dreadlust. He also mentioned to get my forum privileges removed during that conversation due to security reasons which is understandable, how did he a person who I haven’t spoken to since April and which we disliked each other due to personal reasons until recently (Untill recently which the issue has been resolved) know who I was and you would not know who I was?



· Let’s just say in mortal online someone loots your gear and dies, when someone loots your gear they acquire it and I becomes a part of them. If I somehow looted your gear off of the enemies, wouldn’t it mean that I looted the enemies and not your gear? Do this within 24 hours.

It appears Herald Levald Aurelius made an interpretation of your questions in a clear and concise form. You can use it as examples of what questions should look like, or copy them if you want to:
Why did you address Kumiko stating "I see your working with the Gutternsipes ey"?

How did you learn Kumiko was Dreadlust?

Were you aware of Kumikos prior history of being tagged as a member of wessex?

Please clarify which steel armor pieces you remember seeing Kumiko wear.

There is a dispute as to the type of armor you claim to have seen Kumiko wearing. Could you have mistaken another for Kumiko? Have you any evidence of what armor Kumiko was wearing?

You were fighting 2 guttersnipes members in close combat.
When and where were you able to appraise your surroundings during the engagement?

What was your justification for murdering Kumiko?

Why didn't you ask Kumiko to return your gear if you believed he had it?

Do you have any evidence proving Dreadlust was working with Guttersnipes?

Why did you murder one of Dreadlusts characters?

How can somone attain gear from a blue without flagging grey?

Is it possible the armor pieces named "knight" or "cavilier" found on Kumiko were lost at a prior battle or made by somone else?

Why did Kreager contact Kumiko to ask which guild he was in?

How did Kreager know Kumiko was Dreadlust?

How could you not know Kumiko was Dreadlust if Kreager did?

If you loot gear from an enemy doesn't that make it enemy loot? Even if that enemy had just looted it from a fellow guild member?

Altus Whyte
11-21-2013, 03:51 PM
Meanwhile, the defendant is instructed to answer the following plaintiff questions:


· You claim that I was wearing steel armor pieces; can you clarify which pieces I was wearing?



· You were fighting the guttersnipes members in close combat, how and when did you get time to look at the surrounding and the people on a sloped hill where targeting people is close to impossible.



· You had claimed that you had called the guards on the enemy which had died since you had claimed that I was carrying the enemy’s armor, why would the guards not kill me even tho as you claim I was gray?



· You claim a possibility that the so called “reds” looted the armor and then you say that I had looted the reds dead bodies and also claim that you had called guards on the mounted reds. How can it be that they could pull that off in that short amount of town near the guard zone?



· You had claimed that somehow I had looted your armor near the town guardzone and was not killed by the guards. How could I manage to carry all of the armor that you claimed I had on me when I was on a mage that could not carry much weight due to its stats as shown here? (http://www.mortalonline.com/db/?cn=Kumiko).



· Let’s just say if I looted your armor off of the so called enemies (which I didn’t) and you claim that you name all of your armor Cavilier and Knight, due to your tendency of dying a lot in battle wouldn’t it mean that the enemy might have looted those armor pieces off of you during a previous battle and the enemy decided to wear it?


Do so within 24 hours.

Rhodri Taliesin
11-22-2013, 12:41 AM
In answer to your questions:

1: The steel chestplate, a sleeve, and the boots.

2: Any half decent and seasoned fighter is well aware of their surroundings and who they are up against.

3: Read my statement far more closely, I had never claimed you were grey flagged.

4: How quickly two people can loot a body is irrelevant to this case, and clearly they did not pull it off as they were killed by the guards.

5: Even though the Strength on that character is now 18, it does not reflect the characters strength as of the date of the action. "your" screen shot shows you had a Steel greatsword equiped, to use one functionally it suggests that at the time your strength was as of at least 87 - the in game strength requirement for that weapon.

In fact I would appreciate a master weapon smith to verify the strength requirements of such a sword.

6: I do not tend to die that much in battle, though that is besides the point. In this particular battle, only one other person was wearing any steel parts, that being one of the mounted reds wearing a steel torso. If he was indeed wearing any of my armor, then it would have been found that he had two pieces of steel armor of the exact same name designation on his corpse instead of just the one set I found on Kumiko.

Dreadlust Shadow
11-22-2013, 04:48 AM
.Why did you yell out " I see your working with the guttersnipes ey" to me after ressurecting form the priest?

.How did you learn that my character Kumiko was Dreadlust?

.Why did you claim that i was/or am a guttersnipes associate. What was your reasoning behind this?

.Why did you not ask to see if i might have gotten or accidentally gotten your armor instead of killing me?

.Why did you kill me instead of asking if i might have gotten your armor?

.Why would I go out of my way to help the group of people that i consider a enemy that i had destroyed assets belonging to them worth over 1000g during the war?

.Do you have any evidence to prove that I am working/ have worked/ or had worked with the guttersnipes?

.Were you not aware that the Duchy of Wessex has a court system to punish the crimes committed by the members within the empire?

.Why would you take the laws into your own hands based on assumptions?

.Do you consider yourself to be a superior member of Wessex or more superior to Wessex law?

.How did Kreager know that Kumiko was me and you didn't?

.Why did Kreager add me to his friends list and ask which guild i was in or working with straight after the confrontation between me and you had ended?

.If the enemy had looted your gear after you had fought them and died fair and square and looted you, wouldn't that mean that gear had become the enemies gear since it had become a part of their inventory?

.If i had looted the enemy that might or might not have looted you (I'm using you as a example here), wouldn't that mean that I had looted the enemy and not you?

Altus Whyte
11-22-2013, 10:16 AM
Defendant, answer the rest of the questions within 24 hours.

Rhodri Taliesin
11-23-2013, 03:06 AM
Second set of questions.

1: Because it was assumed you were with the enemy Guttersnipes when I witnessed your character throwing a healing spell onto one of the blues in their group.

2: Through Kreager Stonewall only in hindsight.

3: This question was already answered previously

4: Because you were assumed to be with the enemy, I'm not going to waste words trying to negotiate for equipment looted, I will act and retrieve it myself.

5: You are repeating your previous question.

6: You have been known in the past to have had alternate characters that have been part of enemy guilds and even gone as far as to assist them. Anyone other than myself remember the character "Dreadmine(d)?

7: Investigating it myself I have spoken with Aly and Vyncent of the guild AA, though their collective memories are fuzzy since the time of the incident, the name "Kumiko" does ring a bell amongst those two and the rest of their guild. In what context is inconclusive.

8: Of course I am aware of this court, as I've been here before concerning an issue with another disgruntled Villein.

9: As a soldier it is lawful to deal with an assumed enemy with lethal force.

10: I object to this question, as to it's accusatory nature and has no place in this court of law.

11: I cannot claim to speak for Kreager Stonewall, if you are curious you should ask him yourself.

12: I shall repeat my previous answer.

13 & 14: This question is repeated twice. In short, No, if the enemy murders a person belonging to our people and take his property, the items and equipment still belong to the original owner, period.



Now that these questions are answered, I would request that we put this Assize on hold between the days of the 23rd of November when I leave for Thanksgiving road trip, through to the 1st of December when I am scheduled to return.

Altus Whyte
11-24-2013, 01:18 AM
Plaintiff, post any follow-up questions or state that you do not have any. The defendant will then answer them when he returns 131201.

The plaintiff has until 131201 to do so.

Dreadlust Shadow
11-29-2013, 10:47 PM
1:Do you have any evidence that I was healing any of the guttersnipes members? If I was indeed working with guts, wouldn't i have jeportised my standing with the alliance that was formed in order to destroy the guttersnipes in the first place?

2:Would it not have been a worthwhile investment in the long run to have had a few words with me back then, rather than murdering me and using the words that you have already used throughout in this court-case?

3:Do you have any evidence to prove your claims of me having alts in other guilds?

4.My understanding was that it is lawful for soldiers to deal with CONFIRMED enemies (such as wardec'd opponents, or people on the KoS list) rather than SUSPECTED enemies. Otherwise, are we not supporting chaotic vigilantism where we can murder people, even members of Wessex, based on suspicion without the need to produce evidence?

Rhodri Taliesin
12-01-2013, 05:51 AM
I am returned as of 11/30/2013 at 10:51 PM

Altus Whyte
12-03-2013, 11:09 AM
Defendant, answer the new questions within 24 hours.

Rhodri Taliesin
12-04-2013, 09:38 PM
I object to this line of questioning; The Plaintiff is merely repeating himself at this point.

Altus Whyte
12-06-2013, 11:29 PM
I do not see any question that has already been asked and clearly answered. If you still have objections then specify to which question it is that you object and for what reason.

Going forward everyone in this assize is instructed to address each question one by one when objecting.


Question 1 is actually two questions, so answer to following:


1. Do you have any evidence that I was healing any of the guttersnipes members?

2. If I was indeed working with guts, wouldn't i have jeportised my standing with the alliance that was formed in order to destroy the guttersnipes in the first place?

3. Would it not have been a worthwhile investment in the long run to have had a few words with me back then, rather than murdering me and using the words that you have already used throughout in this court-case?

4. Do you have any evidence to prove your claims of me having alts in other guilds?

5. My understanding was that it is lawful for soldiers to deal with CONFIRMED enemies (such as wardec'd opponents, or people on the KoS list) rather than SUSPECTED enemies. Otherwise, are we not supporting chaotic vigilantism where we can murder people, even members of Wessex, based on suspicion without the need to produce evidence?

Respond within 24 hours.

Rhodri Taliesin
12-07-2013, 07:28 AM
1: No more evidence than you have with your claims of murder.

2: Due to mechanical constraints your so called "allies" wouldn't know that you were running around with Guttersnipes if you used an alternate character to do the deed, one that they were unaware of.

3: This question was already answered, please don't repeat your questions using different words. (Objection to this question)

4: Following this thread here (http://duchyofwessex.org/forum/showthread.php?12530-New-Information-Regarding-Dreadlust), please read the original post carefully.

5:It is an unwritten mantra amongst veteran Garrison that it is better to act and ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission when regarding points that require immediate action to be taken.

Though it is entirely possible to argue that at the time in question the leadership of Kora Havion disavowed my association with Wessex and that I was not actively a member of Wessex in Mortal Online and therefore not subject to following a soldiers code of conduct.

Altus Whyte
12-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Objection to question 3 overruled. Defendant, you have explained your reasoning behind the killing to us along with your general principles on the matter. Question 3 asks whether you in hindsight would rather have done differently and talked to the plaintiff.

As for the answer to 4, you have linked a statement contained in a restricted non-public section, unavailable to the plaintiff and the jury. What you can do is state that you intend to call the author of the statement to make the statement to this public assize, or request the original statement to be made public and available to this trial.

Answer questions 3 and 4 within 24 hours.

Rhodri Taliesin
12-08-2013, 08:01 AM
3: I continue to object to this question as hindsight is based off of an opinion and not pertinent to my guilt or lack thereof as it pertains to the incident in question.

4: I do intend to call the Author Sir Otto Osterwind to make his statement public, though if possible and to save time I would also request the original statement be made publicly available. Or if it is permitted, I could also supply a screen-shot of the post referenced.

Altus Whyte
12-08-2013, 10:21 PM
Objection to question 3 is sustained.

As for question 4, just calling a witness on the matter should be enough.


Plaintiff, you may ask a follow-up question on answers that you do not consider satisfactory.

Otherwise, state that you are done, and we can proceed with the defendant questioning you, if he wishes to.

Respond within 24 hours.

Dreadlust Shadow
12-09-2013, 09:05 AM
I am satisfied with the answers provided so far so i will allow that the defendant may ask his questions.

Altus Whyte
12-09-2013, 11:14 AM
The defendant may go ahead and submit his questions if he has any. If not, respond so that we can proceed.

Do so within 24 hours.

Rhodri Taliesin
12-10-2013, 06:20 AM
I do not have any questions concerning this incident.

Altus Whyte
12-10-2013, 04:53 PM
We can then proceed with the defendant's intention to call a witness.

Reply in 24 hours to confirm that you want to call Sir Otto Osterwind.

Rhodri Taliesin
12-10-2013, 08:46 PM
I would indeed like to call on Sir Otto Osterwind to make a statement on behalf of question #4 concerning the thread and "quote" indirectly linked.

Altus Whyte
12-11-2013, 11:02 AM
The court calls Sir Otto Osterwind. Respond within 24 hours and state that you are present to testify.

The defendant may then submit his questions once the witness has responded. The defendant is to avoid asking leading questions since this is not a hostile witness.

Otto Osterwind
12-11-2013, 06:14 PM
I am present.

Altus Whyte
12-12-2013, 02:18 PM
Defendant, submit your questions within 24 hours.

Rhodri Taliesin
12-13-2013, 06:43 AM
Sir Otto Osterwind, do you consent to making public your statement concerning the Plaintiff in the post linked?

To save time would you quote yourself word for word what it was in your words that I referenced?

Altus Whyte
12-14-2013, 01:05 PM
Otto, please go ahead and respond within 24 hours.

Otto Osterwind
12-14-2013, 10:55 PM
I request for twelve hours extension as I may be returning tomorrow.

Altus Whyte
12-15-2013, 07:55 PM
That's fine.

Otto Osterwind
12-17-2013, 12:37 PM
The post in question:

"I realize he's off to war with GUTs, but during the war he had his alt Kumiko tagged as an AA member. He admitted this to me when I confronted him saying he "felt bad for them."

-removed-

-removed-
"
Word for word.

Altus Whyte
12-18-2013, 05:39 AM
I have removed the admission-unrelated statements at the end of the quote due to irrelevance and speculation.

Defendant, ask further questions within 24 hours.

If the defendant has no more questions, the plaintiff may begin submitting questions to the witness.

Rhodri Taliesin
12-18-2013, 05:46 AM
Further questions:


How many accounts both free to play and subscribed does the plaintiff actually have, including those unlisted and unnamed?

How many of these are in guilds or clans deemed as enemies?

Do you recall a character by the name of Dreadmine(d?), if so what became of that character?


Feel free to discount them if you find these questions irrelevant to the case, but otherwise I'm pretty much out of possible questions.

Altus Whyte
12-20-2013, 12:54 AM
Plaintiff, you have 24 hours to make any objections to the questions if you have any.

Dreadlust Shadow
12-20-2013, 10:54 AM
I have no objections, I am happy to let the witness to answer those questions.

Altus Whyte
12-20-2013, 04:59 PM
Otto, answer the questions within 24 hours.

Otto Osterwind
12-20-2013, 05:58 PM
How many accounts both free to play and subscribed does the plaintiff actually have, including those unlisted and unnamed?

I am unaware, currently, of how many accounts Dreadlust has, only that there may be numerous.

How many of these are in guilds or clans deemed as enemies?

Aside from Kumiko who was tagged "AA" as a subset of the guild GUTS, I am unaware.

Do you recall a character by the name of Dreadmine(d?), if so what became of that character?

The character was under investigation and believed to be an alternate of Dreadlust's whom was on the opposite side of the war and supposedly feeding information to the enemy. After the leadership transition from Kreager to Kora, the investigation did not continue.

Otto Osterwind
12-23-2013, 03:12 AM
Further questions:


How many accounts both free to play and subscribed does the plaintiff actually have, including those unlisted and unnamed?

How many of these are in guilds or clans deemed as enemies?

Do you recall a character by the name of Dreadmine(d?), if so what became of that character?


Feel free to discount them if you find these questions irrelevant to the case, but otherwise I'm pretty much out of possible questions.

I am only completely, without a doubt, aware of one free to play account in his possession. Kumiko being tagged [AA]. Dreadmined was under investigation, thought to be Dreadlust. After the leadership transition from Kreager to Kora, the investigation fell by the way side.

Altus Whyte
12-23-2013, 04:15 AM
Defendant, post any follow-up questions or state that you do not have any. You have 24 hours to do so.

Rhodri Taliesin
12-23-2013, 08:25 AM
I have no further questions, thank you for answer Sir Otto Osterwind.

Rhodri Taliesin
12-25-2013, 11:49 PM
I have no other inquiries to pose, I request an extended leave from this court, I shall be indisposed and away for the next 11-12 days.

I'll be returned on the 7th of January 2014.

If I am able to connect on my phone I'll do my best to partake.

Altus Whyte
12-27-2013, 12:02 PM
The plaintiff may now submit questions to the witness.

The defendant should then reply and state whether he has any objections to the questions. The defendant should try to do this as soon as possible, but no later than 140107.

Dreadlust Shadow
01-03-2014, 06:49 PM
Sir Otto Osterwind has always been an upstanding member of the Duchy of Wessex and does justice to the Osterwind name for his piety and honesty. There I'd like only a tiny bit of clarification about your conviction that I was a member of AA. I do not recall ever saying that I had a character tagged in AA. I do recall, however, having a conversation with Sir Otto where he asked me if I had a character in AA, to which I replied: "I felt sorry for them" because, as far as I knew, they were merely a crafting guild but are assumed to be part of GUTS. Could this possibly be another case of a broken telephone deal?

I understand that the next point regarding Dreadmind is that that assumption in mind that Dreadmind is one of my alts. I do not recall having this as any of my characters, so my next question would be this: How did you manage to verify that Dreadmind was, indeed, one of my alternate characters?

Otto Osterwind
01-06-2014, 11:50 AM
Sir Otto Osterwind has always been an upstanding member of the Duchy of Wessex and does justice to the Osterwind name for his piety and honesty. There I'd like only a tiny bit of clarification about your conviction that I was a member of AA. I do not recall ever saying that I had a character tagged in AA. I do recall, however, having a conversation with Sir Otto where he asked me if I had a character in AA, to which I replied: "I felt sorry for them" because, as far as I knew, they were merely a crafting guild but are assumed to be part of GUTS. Could this possibly be another case of a broken telephone deal?

I understand that the next point regarding Dreadmind is that that assumption in mind that Dreadmind is one of my alts. I do not recall having this as any of my characters, so my next question would be this: How did you manage to verify that Dreadmind was, indeed, one of my alternate characters?

You offer me kindness in your words, thank you.

The conversation that I recalled did regard Kumiko being tagged [AA] for that brief moment to which you responded that you had felt sorry for them and that they were "tricked" into joining a war with GUTs and that is why you were seen with an [AA] tag. It could be possible.

Dreadmind was never verified as an alternate character, hence the investigation.

Rhodri Taliesin
01-07-2014, 02:24 AM
I have no objection to these questions.

Altus Whyte
01-09-2014, 05:30 PM
Plaintiff, post any follow-up questions or state that you do not have any. You have 24 hours to do so.

Altus Whyte
01-10-2014, 01:39 PM
The plaintiff is given a 2 days leave. He shall respond within 48 hours from now.

Dreadlust Shadow
01-12-2014, 11:34 PM
I am sorry for the delay and have no more questions to ask Sir Otto.

Altus Whyte
01-13-2014, 06:49 PM
Either party may now go ahead and make rebuttals or arguments regarding specific statements that have been made such far. This is not the closing arguments. You have 24 hours to do so.

The court will then decide with the jury whether any further information is required before proceeding to closing arguments and deliberations.

Altus Whyte
01-13-2014, 09:09 PM
A clarification on killing-related crimes: After the crown being consulted on the matter, it is established that a killing is to be classed as a murder if it is deemed serious enough to warrant an exile, such as a killing in a perma-death game or an evidently malevolent killing in a regular MMO. Otherwise a killing is to be classed as different forms and degrees of aggravated assault and battery depending on how serious it is. This is because a killing in a non perma-death world doesn't carry the permanence essential to the severity of murder as a crime.

Rhodri Taliesin
01-13-2014, 10:18 PM
I've nothing more to say, thank you Sheriff for the clarifications.

Dreadlust Shadow
01-13-2014, 11:07 PM
I have no arguments and rebuttals to make.

Altus Whyte
01-19-2014, 08:16 PM
The following is a condensed summary for the reviewing of what has been said such far:


//d

During Friday, ‎October ‎4, ‎2013, ‏‎3:37:01 PM (Oceanic time zone) It started off as a boring day where the server war between 7L alliance and the GUTS alliance was coming to a complete stop due to both sides being bored from sieging assets so i asked 7L if there war was active and they told me that they did not know so i decided to take the tunghsteel-steel set and many other steel pieces i had looted in a battle, from Kranesh to Bakti due to the fact that Wessex is based out of there on my Dreadlust character. After i arrived into Bakti i transferred the armor set to my character named Kumiko due to the fact that i kept all the good armor pieces that i couldn't use on my main due to armor taking up too much bank space. While transferring the armor set i had noticed a old friend of mine from WSX was in Bakti who had left Wessex due to drama within the guild. I went up to him on the current character i was on which was Kumiko and added him onto my friends list to ask him why he had left and to see if he had changed his mind about leaving Wessex and tried to convince him to join Wessex again. After a while of talking to one another somebody yelled out that GUTS was outside the west gates, so i told Castiel to wait then grabbed my minimum dencity flakestone armor and some magic reagents and went outside to fight them. After i went outside of Bakti i spotted two mounted red GUTS members which ones name was Chicollo and the other one i forgot the name of circling around Bakti's west gates attacking people (Chicollo being a hammer user and the other one being a mounted archer). Due to GUTS being outside a few people engaged them including Rhodri and I near the hillside west of the town. Rhodri went all out and was fighting them 1 vs 2 and eventually got dismounted. During that time i could not heal anyone due a slight bug where your magic wont work on anyone. After a few minutes of skirmishing Rhodris mount eventually died and got knocked off of it and decided to walk towards the guardzone outside of Bakti in order to call the guards on the people outside as demonstrated in a different PvP video showing Rhodris habit when a fight is being lost ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO8SC6lkCGk 3:40 onwards ). After Rhodri had called the guards on the enemy Chicollo got stuck on a bush due to a glitch and died to the guards. While his other friend was trying to get away he also got stuck on the same position and died. Due to no body being around i ran up to the lootbags and looted most of the loot off of the enemies bodies. The loot i got off the enemies included 3 messing and 1 steel mauls, 1 steel 2h star mace, a bow and almost 2 armor sets which included a molrium set and a steel/flakestone set. Due to me picking up so much loot i was weighed down tremendously and my speed was cut off more than half. Due to the fear of being attacked I decided to go the the outside, west fence of Bakti to log out while trying to contact Castiel to help me transfer the loot to my bank because he was afk i decided to log out once i arrived at the fence but canceled the logout when i saw a naked Rhodri arrive outside of the town gates along sides the south west fence and look down on the floor at his blue lootbag. Due to me seeing him dead and his lootbag being there i decided to follow the west fence northwards while using the auto run and to get this loot into my bank. After i arrived into town through the west gate Castiel had replied to the message i sent a while ago and asked if i needed help getting all of the loot into town and i replied "no I'm in town" then typed "I'm tiptoeing" reffering to how my character was moving. Before i could press enter to send the message to Castiel, Rhodri came out of no were naked with a one handed steel greatblade and started to attack me causing him to turn blue and ended up killing me. After he had killed me the guards then killed him due to him attacking someone in town. After taking screenshots( http://i.imgur.com/cWfLTAO.png Friday, ‎October ‎4, ‎2013, ‏‎4:02:55 PM)and ranting about Rhodri to Castiel, i quickly ran to the priest and resurrected making my way to my lootbag swiftly so it wont be looted by any griefers. When i arrived at my lootbag two lines of weapons + armor was missing. Even tho this was the case i looted all of my original gear and some of the gear that was left and banked most and afterwards gave the rest of the armor to naked players around Bakti. Before i gave the armors away i decided to rant about Rhodri in town about him killing me and why would he kill me and then after the 2 minute gray timer was up Rhodri had ressurected at the priest and said "I see your working with the Gutternsipes ey" (or something close to that) and i ranted more until another Wessex member that i forgot the name of came up to me and said "It sounds like butt hurt to me". I replied back to him forgetting what i actually said then Kreager (A person that i had not spoken to since January) requested to be my friend and started to ask me question such as what guilds are you with, are you guilded etc. I replied as straightforward as possible and removed him off of my friends list then gave the armor away to naked aroundBakti since i could not use it due to me being a free to play.

Corrections by the plaintiff:

Before i could press enter to send the message to Castiel, Rhodri came out of no were naked with a one handed steel greatblade and started to attack me causing him to turn grey and ended up killing me. After he had killed me the guards then killed him due to him attacking someone in town.
I replied back to him forgetting what i actually said then Kreager (A person that i had not spoken to since April) requested to be my friend and started to ask me question such as what guilds are you with, are you guilded etc.//r

First of I'd like to thank the Jury and the Sheriff for their time and participation here.

On the day in question I remember see a /yell around town that the Guttersnipes had arrived in Bak'ti. After trying to assemble a counter force in town and finding none to join the fight. I decided to take a stand against the red raiders myself. I was in Teamspeak with Kreager Stonewall at the time, who was not logged into game, enjoying general banter. After a few minutes of the fight going back and forth with some performance issues on my own end (such as freezing in place at inopportune moments). I ended up being an easy target for the raiders.

As I was attempting to make my way towards the safety of the town riding down hill, I noticed a grouping of players blue flagged and grey flagged, one of those players being "Kumiko", who was throwing healing spells onto the Guttersnipe raiders blue-flagged players. Kumiko was wrapped in scale made Khurite Splinted armor. A character that until then I had never seen in or around Bak'ti. At this point I had been dismounted and cornered against the fence, surrounding Bak'ti, where I was struck with a few flamestrike spells and killed.

Before I fell I had called the guards a few times, in hopes that if I were to die that my enemies might be taken with me. I ran to the priest, resurrected and made my way back towards the gate and towards my corpse to see what had occurred while I was dead, it appeared the enemy was dead, and that their bodies were looted, my own corpse looted empty (probably by the reds) upon passing, I noticed Kumiko who was now wearing pieces of steel armor where there was none before.

Believing this person to have assisted in my demise and having looted his friends equipment as well as my own to preserve it for their own nefarious endeavors, I grabbed a blade and slew this person, upon inspection of the fallen Kumiko, my suspicions were confirmed when I found pieces of my armor with my armor markings. I always make my steel pieces marked as "Cavalier" & "Knight" As well as my personal sword. Within moments after having my suspicions confirmed I grabbed what was mine and then fell when the guards sought retribution upon my mechanically criminal status.

Correction: I slew Kumiko with a 2h greatblade made of steel rather than a 1h steel greatblade. All under the presumption that Kumiko was assisting Guttersnipes.


//d

· You claim that I was wearing steel armor pieces; can you clarify which pieces I was wearing?

· You were fighting the guttersnipes members in close combat, how and when did you get time to look at the surrounding and the people on a sloped hill where targeting people is close to impossible.

· You had claimed that you had called the guards on the enemy which had died since you had claimed that I was carrying the enemy’s armor, why would the guards not kill me even tho as you claim I was gray?

· You claim a possibility that the so called “reds” looted the armor and then you say that I had looted the reds dead bodies and also claim that you had called guards on the mounted reds. How can it be that they could pull that off in that short amount of town near the guard zone?

· You had claimed that somehow I had looted your armor near the town guardzone and was not killed by the guards. How could I manage to carry all of the armor that you claimed I had on me when I was on a mage that could not carry much weight due to its stats as shown here? (http://www.mortalonline.com/db/?cn=Kumiko).

· Let’s just say if I looted your armor off of the so called enemies (which I didn’t) and you claim that you name all of your armor Cavilier and Knight, due to your tendency of dying a lot in battle wouldn’t it mean that the enemy might have looted those armor pieces off of you during a previous battle and the enemy decided to wear it?



//r

1: The steel chestplate, a sleeve, and the boots.

2: Any half decent and seasoned fighter is well aware of their surroundings and who they are up against.

3: Read my statement far more closely, I had never claimed you were grey flagged.

4: How quickly two people can loot a body is irrelevant to this case, and clearly they did not pull it off as they were killed by the guards.

5: Even though the Strength on that character is now 18, it does not reflect the characters strength as of the date of the action. "your" screen shot shows you had a Steel greatsword equiped, to use one functionally it suggests that at the time your strength was as of at least 87 - the in game strength requirement for that weapon.

In fact I would appreciate a master weapon smith to verify the strength requirements of such a sword.

6: I do not tend to die that much in battle, though that is besides the point. In this particular battle, only one other person was wearing any steel parts, that being one of the mounted reds wearing a steel torso. If he was indeed wearing any of my armor, then it would have been found that he had two pieces of steel armor of the exact same name designation on his corpse instead of just the one set I found on Kumiko.



//d

.Why did you yell out " I see your working with the guttersnipes ey" to me after ressurecting form the priest?

.How did you learn that my character Kumiko was Dreadlust?

.Why did you claim that i was/or am a guttersnipes associate. What was your reasoning behind this?

.Why did you not ask to see if i might have gotten or accidentally gotten your armor instead of killing me?

.Why did you kill me instead of asking if i might have gotten your armor?

.Why would I go out of my way to help the group of people that i consider a enemy that i had destroyed assets belonging to them worth over 1000g during the war?

.Do you have any evidence to prove that I am working/ have worked/ or had worked with the guttersnipes?

.Were you not aware that the Duchy of Wessex has a court system to punish the crimes committed by the members within the empire?

.Why would you take the laws into your own hands based on assumptions?

.Do you consider yourself to be a superior member of Wessex or more superior to Wessex law?

.How did Kreager know that Kumiko was me and you didn't?

.Why did Kreager add me to his friends list and ask which guild i was in or working with straight after the confrontation between me and you had ended?

.If the enemy had looted your gear after you had fought them and died fair and square and looted you, wouldn't that mean that gear had become the enemies gear since it had become a part of their inventory?

.If i had looted the enemy that might or might not have looted you (I'm using you as a example here), wouldn't that mean that I had looted the enemy and not you?



//r

1: Because it was assumed you were with the enemy Guttersnipes when I witnessed your character throwing a healing spell onto one of the blues in their group.

2: Through Kreager Stonewall only in hindsight.

3: This question was already answered previously

4: Because you were assumed to be with the enemy, I'm not going to waste words trying to negotiate for equipment looted, I will act and retrieve it myself.

5: You are repeating your previous question.

6: You have been known in the past to have had alternate characters that have been part of enemy guilds and even gone as far as to assist them. Anyone other than myself remember the character "Dreadmine(d)?

7: Investigating it myself I have spoken with Aly and Vyncent of the guild AA, though their collective memories are fuzzy since the time of the incident, the name "Kumiko" does ring a bell amongst those two and the rest of their guild. In what context is inconclusive.

8: Of course I am aware of this court, as I've been here before concerning an issue with another disgruntled Villein.

9: As a soldier it is lawful to deal with an assumed enemy with lethal force.

10: I object to this question, as to it's accusatory nature and has no place in this court of law.

11: I cannot claim to speak for Kreager Stonewall, if you are curious you should ask him yourself.

12: I shall repeat my previous answer.

13 & 14: This question is repeated twice. In short, No, if the enemy murders a person belonging to our people and take his property, the items and equipment still belong to the original owner, period.



//d

1. Do you have any evidence that I was healing any of the guttersnipes members?

2. If I was indeed working with guts, wouldn't i have jeportised my standing with the alliance that was formed in order to destroy the guttersnipes in the first place?

3. Would it not have been a worthwhile investment in the long run to have had a few words with me back then, rather than murdering me and using the words that you have already used throughout in this court-case?

4. Do you have any evidence to prove your claims of me having alts in other guilds?

5. My understanding was that it is lawful for soldiers to deal with CONFIRMED enemies (such as wardec'd opponents, or people on the KoS list) rather than SUSPECTED enemies. Otherwise, are we not supporting chaotic vigilantism where we can murder people, even members of Wessex, based on suspicion without the need to produce evidence?



//r

1: No more evidence than you have with your claims of murder.

2: Due to mechanical constraints your so called "allies" wouldn't know that you were running around with Guttersnipes if you used an alternate character to do the deed, one that they were unaware of.

3: I continue to object to this question as hindsight is based off of an opinion and not pertinent to my guilt or lack thereof as it pertains to the incident in question.

4: I do intend to call the Author Sir Otto Osterwind to make his statement public, though if possible and to save time I would also request the original statement be made publicly available. Or if it is permitted, I could also supply a screen-shot of the post referenced.

5:It is an unwritten mantra amongst veteran Garrison that it is better to act and ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission when regarding points that require immediate action to be taken.

Though it is entirely possible to argue that at the time in question the leadership of Kora Havion disavowed my association with Wessex and that I was not actively a member of Wessex in Mortal Online and therefore not subject to following a soldiers code of conduct.



//otto

The post in question:

"I realize he's off to war with GUTs, but during the war he had his alt Kumiko tagged as an AA member. He admitted this to me when I confronted him saying he "felt bad for them."

-removed-

-removed-
"
Word for word.



//r

Further questions:

How many accounts both free to play and subscribed does the plaintiff actually have, including those unlisted and unnamed?

How many of these are in guilds or clans deemed as enemies?

Do you recall a character by the name of Dreadmine(d?), if so what became of that character?



//otto

I am unaware, currently, of how many accounts Dreadlust has, only that there may be numerous.

Aside from Kumiko who was tagged "AA" as a subset of the guild GUTS, I am unaware.

The character was under investigation and believed to be an alternate of Dreadlust's whom was on the opposite side of the war and supposedly feeding information to the enemy. After the leadership transition from Kreager to Kora, the investigation did not continue.

I am only completely, without a doubt, aware of one free to play account in his possession. Kumiko being tagged [AA]. Dreadmined was under investigation, thought to be Dreadlust. After the leadership transition from Kreager to Kora, the investigation fell by the way side.


//d

Sir Otto Osterwind has always been an upstanding member of the Duchy of Wessex and does justice to the Osterwind name for his piety and honesty. There I'd like only a tiny bit of clarification about your conviction that I was a member of AA. I do not recall ever saying that I had a character tagged in AA. I do recall, however, having a conversation with Sir Otto where he asked me if I had a character in AA, to which I replied: "I felt sorry for them" because, as far as I knew, they were merely a crafting guild but are assumed to be part of GUTS. Could this possibly be another case of a broken telephone deal?

I understand that the next point regarding Dreadmind is that that assumption in mind that Dreadmind is one of my alts. I do not recall having this as any of my characters, so my next question would be this: How did you manage to verify that Dreadmind was, indeed, one of my alternate characters?


//otto

You offer me kindness in your words, thank you.

The conversation that I recalled did regard Kumiko being tagged [AA] for that brief moment to which you responded that you had felt sorry for them and that they were "tricked" into joining a war with GUTs and that is why you were seen with an [AA] tag. It could be possible.

Dreadmind was never verified as an alternate character, hence the investigation.

Altus Whyte
01-20-2014, 05:31 AM
The following question is to be answered by both parties:

Were there people other than the GUTS nearby? If so, how many were they and how many of them were involved in the fighting?

Rhodri Taliesin
01-20-2014, 05:36 AM
To my memory, some random Bak'ti citizens ran out, possibly Blackguard or NWO, but none of us were organized or working together, so the fighting was mostly localized to me and the GUTS members.

Dreadlust Shadow
01-20-2014, 08:05 AM
My memory is a bit fuzzy but the only parts i remember was that Rhodri and I were the only 2 engaged in the combat, there were a few people near by the town entrance and if my memory is correct 1 or 2 of them were known griefers at the time. One of them if i believe correctly was either Manok or xspartanx. That was during the battle. Castiel was also nearby alongside Kiwi from NTC and Sweet from NTC but i am not too sure if they were watching the battle or not.

Altus Whyte
01-20-2014, 03:00 PM
To be answered by both parties:

Were there blue GUTS around? How many were they, and how did you distinguish them from the random Bakti citizens?

Rhodri Taliesin
01-20-2014, 07:09 PM
Yes there were Blue Guttersnipes around, you distinguished them through their actions and by the some odd one that openly wore their acronym/tags to be identified as Guttersnipes.

Dreadlust Shadow
01-20-2014, 09:22 PM
Apart from the 2 red mounted Gutersnipes members I do not recall spotting any other Guts members.

Altus Whyte
01-20-2014, 11:11 PM
Defendant, is it either possible or likely that Kumiko healed random Bakti blues and not GUTS blues? If not, why?


Plaintiff, if you healed blues in the area, is it either possible or likely that you by accident healed untagged GUTS? If not, why?

Dreadlust Shadow
01-20-2014, 11:40 PM
I was not able to heal anyone throughout the whole battle. My healing spells or offensive magic did not work due to the game being bugged at the time and the targets i was even trying to heal were moving at a high speed. The thing with mortal online is that there is a bug where when you try and heal something it does not work which is also reffered to as it being 'fizzled'.

Altus Whyte
02-17-2014, 07:40 PM
Mister Hawks Furysky, who is not a Wessex subject, has requested to be dismissed from the jury due to no longer being active in Nave and Wessex, and being occupied with other matters in life. Mister Hawks Furysky is dismissed from the jury.


The court summons Sir Bastor Sharpeye for jury duty.

Post an acknowledgment within 24 hours.

Bastor Sharpeye
02-19-2014, 07:37 PM
Reporting in. Though late. My apologies to the court.

How can I be of service?