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Varrick ChaosWielder
11-01-2013, 10:32 PM
Greetings,
I have spoken with His Grace the Duke. This is the clarification on members of the Clergy. It is a social class, so you CAN hold any other "job" within the Duchy, and go up in rank with them as normally. For example, you could be a Yeomen (Except herald), or serve in the Garrison. If you serve in the Garrison, you would advance as normally, starting as Militiamen, and advancing through the ranks, even as a Knight. If you ever achieve Knighthood, you would be a Church Knight. Often, you may be asked to serve in a position within the court, for example as the Church Advisor, or even other task's or positions. Do remember that any "salary" you draw goes directly to the Church Coffers, and that you may be "withdrawn" from that position if the Church so chooses (Albeit EXTREMELY rare).

So for those looking to become Templar's (or Church Knight), this is the route you must take. The position of Chaplain is usually offered to those of sufficient standing within the Clergy who also serve under the Garrison. This is usually Deacon's and above.

The social class of Clergy does not put you above others, or even an equivalent there-of on other social class. It is entirely separate. Its a wildcard in the sense that you "match" whom-ever you are speaking to. Its not entirely like this, but its easier to think of. Some of our lore experts could elaborate on this a bit more.

Within the Clergy, there is "rankings" as well. Novices and Friars can be seen as our "serfs", Church Knights and Deacons and Priests as our Gentry, Parsons and Bishops and above as our Nobility. Cardinals and above would be considered Church Royalty. These standings do not really translate into their equivalent, but as more a guideline. A Baron addressing a Friar is still addressing someone he must be polite and of similar social standing to him (not above or bellow, thus follow noblesse oblige etiquette and protocol), just as a Pauper would address the same Friar in the same way, as someone of his equal standing. Now of course its hard for people to not go above and beyond in "service" to a Clergymen of higher standing (for example a Parson), but it is that persons duties to remind them that they are no better nor worse than any other man, they are just humble servants of the Radiant Lord.

For which is of accommodations and other services, often these positions come with more "respect" earned. Not necessarily because of the title, but because of how long and what they achieved within the Clergy. While a Novice or Friar may be housed in the minor rooms (or dreadfully, even that stables if nothing is available), a Priest would be expected to have a comfortable bed, good meals and a servant available for his needs. That is not because of his title per say, but just because of how long and what he has achieved. An unknown Priest may very well end up in the stables, and it would not be meant as a disrespect, depending on what he has achieved, and how wealthy his host is.

Either way, keep in mind that we are humble, and do not need luxury that most men crave. We have Soldeus to warm our hearts and body, and to feed our mind. But it would also be insulting to our guest to refuse anything they offer if they have their mind set to it. I would prefer seeing my clergy try to convince their host to put the coins they would spend on their lodging towards better goals like feeding and clothing those in need in their neighborhood.

Varrick ChaosWielder
11-02-2013, 01:05 AM
Please feel free to add any questions here, so I can add (or get) more clarifications to this for future generations.

Casilda Tametomo
11-02-2013, 01:47 AM
Not exactly a 'job' question, but nearly so: With reference to games with a skillset or class for Thievery (in MO, for instance, Pilfering as opposed to mere Snooping or even Lock Picking, and once upon a time in Shadowbane, the Thief rune), and in keeping with the needs of the practical role played by the clergy and the church, is anyone with or in the first held fit to carry out the latter? One might say "known to have" or "known to use" the first.

Yclept Nano
11-02-2013, 01:56 AM
Understood.

Ternix Valerius
11-02-2013, 03:09 AM
I had a talk with Levald, where we were brainstorming this matter, and we found that for clergy members to advance in the Garrison, that they should be able to advance as far as Sergeant, but no further as any further would cause implications with conflicting duties. Any thoughts on this Varrik?

Sir Levald Aurelius
11-02-2013, 05:55 AM
From my understanding they have been cleared for full advancement within the garrison.

Varrick ChaosWielder
11-02-2013, 07:52 AM
By the Will of the Duke, they have been cleared for full advancements.

Varrick ChaosWielder
11-02-2013, 07:53 AM
Thievery will never be acceptable by any members of the Clergy.

Azzerhoden Razeri
11-04-2013, 09:55 PM
Thievery will never be acceptable by any members of the Clergy.

Exactly, as it would be too easily to confuse thievery with tithing.
HA! Just being a smart ass. :D